Tim and Daren discuss the difference in metrics and strategies for disciple making between legacy churches and disciple making movements.
See Tim's book Turning Over a New Leaf on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.ca/Turning-Over-Leaf-Timothy-Beadle-ebook/dp/B09455BG2V
Learn more about Daren at https://darenwride.com and https://12church.com
See his book DNA of a Christ Follower on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3BtnvIx